Simon Volkertse Veeder was born in 1624 in Netherlands. He died on Jan 10 1697.
The following is a quote from Genealogies of the First Settlers of the Patent and City of Schenectady, from 1662 to 1800 by Jonathan Pearson(1873). It is one of the standard works on early Schenectady genealogy.
“Simon Volkerts Veeder, alias de Bakker, born in 1624, belonged to the ship Prince Maurice in 1644, which plied between Amsterdam and New Amsterdam; 1652 he bought a lot and settled in the latter city; sold the same in 1654 for 30 beavers, removed to Beverwyck, and from thence to Schenectady in 1662. He owned a bouwery on the Great flat numbered 9, containing 24 margins, and a village lot on the north corner of State and Ferry Streets. He also owned land on the Normanskil.”
From Vreeland Y Leonard “The Genealogical Record of the Veeder Family – 1937
The originator of the Veeder Family in America was employed by the East India Company as a seaman on the ship ‘Prince Maurice’ which plied between Amsterdam and New Netherlands. He settled in New Amsterdam in 1652. It appears that he soon moved to Fort Orange, where on September 4 1654, he sold to ‘Albert Gerritse’, carpenter, a certain lot in Manathas, next to Adrian Vincent, for thirty beavers. On July 18/28, 1665, he is mentioned as owning a lot in Albany, “North of that of Johannes Provoost, who sells his lot to Jan Evertse.” He was one of the original purchasers, of the Schenectady Patent and on Feb 27, 1670/1, while living there, sells to Joris Arissen (Van der Baast) his pasture land at Schenectady. He evidently moved back to Albany, for on November 27, 1673, Johannes De Wandalear leases him a house, having a large bake oven, in Willemstad (Albany) for three years, beginning May 1, 1674 and ending May 1, 1677.
In December 1675 “the Honorable Commander (of Fort Orange) and the Commissaries resolve to double the Burger Guard and have every night three sentries on guard, to wit: one at the Guard House on the hill, one near the cannon at the church and one at the house of Symon, the baker, opposite Harmon Ganesvoort’s where a Corps de Garde shall be kept also.” On March 5, 1678/9, he is listed as one of the persons “to keep in repair the posts set around the town fence,” distance one rod. On September 26, 1679, he had a horse stolen from him by one Jacob, of Sweer Teunise. On January 20, 1679/80, his wife, Engelite, was cited before the Court for slander, where after a hearing, she made suitable apology on the 22nd. On November 2, 1682, he exchanges “the first lot (called DeHoek) on which he dwells at Schenectady, with Jacob Caspersz (Halenbeck) for house and lands on the Normanskil, who on June 26, 1683, sells to Symon his lands on the Normanskil, called Tawassouthaw”. His will dated January 8, 1696/7 mentions his wife Engeltie, who was named executor, and the children as given below.
Personal property, lands in Schenectady and on the Normanskil called Tawassathaw, are disposed of. The will was not proved until April 13, 1713 and on May 20, 1714 testamentary letters were granted to his three sons, Gerrit, Johannes and Volkert, the fourth son, Pieter having died in 1709.
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The originator of the Veeder Family in America was employed by the East India Company
as a seaman on the ship "Prince Maurice" which plied between Amsterdam and New Netherlands.
He settled in New Amsterdam in 1652. It appears that he soon moved to Fort Orange, where on
Sept, 4, 1654, he sold to "Albert Gerritse, carpenter, a certain lot in Manathas, next to Adrian
Vincent, for thirty beavers." On July 18/28, 1665, he is mentioned as owning a lot in Albany,
''North of that of Johannes Provoost, who sells his lot to Jan Evertse." He was one of the original
purchasers, of the Schenectady Patent and on Feb. 27, 167011, while living there, sells to Joris
Arissen (Van der Baast) his pasture land at Schenectady. He evidently moved back to Albany, for
on Nov. 27, 1673, Johannes De Wandalear leases him a house, having a large bake oven, in
Willemstadt (Albany) for three years, beginning May 1, 1674 and ending May 1, 1677. In Dec.
1675 "the Honorable Commander (of Fort Orange) and the Commissaries resolve to double the
Burger Guard and have every night three sentries on guard, to wit: one at the Guard House on the
hill, one near the cannon at the church and one at the house of Symon, the baker, opposite Harmon
Ganesvoort's where a Corps of Garde shall be kept also." On March 5, 1678/79, he is listed as one
of the persons "to keep in repair the posts set around the town fence," distance one rod. On Sept.
26, 1679, he had a horse stolen from him by one Jacob, the negro of Sweer Teunise. On Jan. 20,
1679/80, his wife Engeltie, was cited before the Court for slander, where after a hearing, she made
suitable apology on the 22nd. On Nov. 2, 1682, he exchanges "the first lot (called Dehoeck) on
which he dwells at Schenectady, with Jacob Casperrsz (Halenbeck) for house and lands on the
Normanskill, who on June 26, 1683, sells to Symon his lands on Normanskill, called
Tawassouthaw." His will, dated Jan 8, 1696/7, mentions his wife Engeltie, who is named executor
[executrix], and the children as given below. Personal property, lands in Schenectady and on the
Normanskill called Twassatha, are disposed of. The will was not proved until Apr. 13, 1713, and
on May 20, 1714 testamentary letters were granted to his three sons, Gerrit, Johannes and Volkert,
the fourth son Pieter having died in 1700.
Children mentioned in the will: Volkie, wife of Barent Janse Wemp; Geestje. wife o(Jans
Hendrickse Vrooman; Magdalena, wife of William Appel of New York; Pieter; Gerrit; Johannes:
Volkert: Maria.
The Dutch were a litigious bunch much given to name calling. The following account
pulls them off the pages of history, humanizing them and providing some insight into the lives
they led. The Veeders appear to have been Lutherans with Engeltie displaying little love for the
Reformed Church. Unfortunately through all the references to Simon Volkertse Veeder and
Engeltie there is never any clue as to Engeltie's parentage.
Minutes of the Court of Albany, Rensselaerswyck and Schenectady, 3 vols., trans. and ed., Arnold J. F.
van Laer, (Albany: University of the State of New York, 1926-1930), vol. 2: 1675-1680, pp. 464-466:
p. 464-6. Extraordinary session held in Albany, January 20, 1679/80
Present: A. Teller
M. Gerrotse
D. Wessells
C. van Dyk
J. Provoost
At the request of Dom. Gideon Schaets and the reverend consistory, who prey for
maintenance of justice in connection with some slanderous remarks by some of the Lutheran
persuasion, Ida Barents is summoned to appear before the court and asked whether she has heard
any of the Lutheran congregation make any slanderous remarks, as has been reported to their
honors. She declares under oath as follows: That on Thursday last she came to the house of
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Annetjen Evertse, where Symon Volkertse's wife, named Engeltje, said to her husband:
"Tomorrow, the banns of your daughter and the son of Huybert d'Guyt will be published in the
church. Then your daughter will have an executioner for a father-in-law." These words she spoke
in the presence of Annetje Evertse, Tierk Harmanse and Philip Wendel, whereupon the husband
said: "What kind of a statement is that?" Thereupon she left the house.
N. B. It is to be observed that the next Friday the early service was to be held before the
Lord's Supper and that after the said daughter had made her confession of faith the banns were to
be proclaimed.
The aforesaid Ida also declares that Engeltje aforesaid yesterday, being the 19th of January,
came to the deponent' s house and, being much upset, stated that she would never allow her
daughter to partake of the Lord's Supper in the Reformed church, even if she had to quarter her
daughter [to prevent her from doing so] and, holding her hand before her mouth, said: "I had better
keep still and say no more. "
Phillip Wendel, being sworn, declares that he heard at Annetje Evertse's house that Ida had
heard it from the mouth of Engeltje aforesaid.
Annetje Evertse, being summoned and being asked whether she heard what is written above,
answers, No, that she heard noting of the kind.
Tierk Harmense, being sworn, says that on Thursday last he heard Symon Volkertse's wife
say to her husband at the house of Annetje Evertse that his daughter was to marry the son of
Huybert d'Guyt and that then she would have an executioner for a father-in-law. He knows
nothing further about it.
[485) Extraordinary session held in Albany, January 22, 1679/80.
Present: M. Gerritse
D . Wessells
c. V. Dyk
J. Provoost
The court meets at the request of Engeltje, the wife of Symon Volkertse, who says that she
had heard that their honors have been informed that she made some slanderous remarks. She
wishes to know what they may be. Whereupon the above testimony of Ida Barents and Philip
Wendel is read to her. Engeltje answers that she did not say what is above written, namely, that the
banns of her daughter and the son of Huybert d'Guyt were to be published tomorrow, but that she
had heard from several people that her daughter would be married to Ryk Michielse, the son of
Huybert d'Guyt, and that she went to the house of Marte Gerritse and asked his wife whether there
was any truth in it. The latter told her that she could not bear him. Therefore, she says that she
said so to her husband in all innocence, owing to such rumors, but no in disparagement.
Their honors reply that they are not satisfied with such an answer and can not accept it as
satisfactory, as she denies what is positively sworn to be two witnesses. Whereupon Engeltye
aforesaid, leaving the room and again appearing before their honors, after having taken the matter
more to heart, declares as follows:
That she is heartily sorry that she made such remarks and therefore prays to God and the
court for forgiveness for the offense committed by her, promising that she will hereafter conduct
herself better.
The honorable court, having taken the matter into consideration, are filled with compassion
for the petitioner and at her humble request forgive her the fault committed by her, on condition
that she shall hereafter guard herself against saying anything about oppression of conscience, or
similar matters.
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It .is not evident which of the Veeder's daughters was the subject of this dust-up, but
apparently Engeltje won the battle of the banns as none appears to have wed Ryk Michielse. No
marriage records were found for daughters Volkje and Magdalena and our ancestor Geesje
Veeder, but somewhat ironically three of the Veeder sons were married in the Reformed Dutch
Church of Albany. 1
According to The Vrooman Family in America. Geesje Veeder married Jan Hendrickse
Vrooman 4 July 1680.2 Geesje was born about 1660 and was still living on 24 April 1732 when
Jan Vrooman wrote his will.3
1
"Marriage Record: Church of Jesus Christ [Reformed Dutch] at New Albany, 1683-1809," Part l , "1683-
1700," Yearbook of the Holland Society of New York (1904):24, 29 and 30.
2
Grace Elizabeth Vrooman Wickersham and Earnest Bernard Comstock, The Vrooman Family in America:
Descendants of Hendrick Meese Vrooman Who Came from Holland to America in 1664. Dallas, TX: Authors, 1949,
p. 15.
3
Jorurthan Pearson, Contributions for the Genealogies of the Descendants of the First Settlers of the Patent and
City of Schenectady, from 1662 to 1800 (Albany: 1873; reprint ed., Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1982),
p. 277
